Uncertitude Of Knowing In Print

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David Myatt, 2005

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The four 2022-2023 interviews with David Myatt mentioned here is a previous post are now available in print under the title An Uncertitude Of Knowing: Four Interviews from amazon dot com and amazon.co.uk. ISBN 979-8394746574, ASIN ‏B0C52BQK92.

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The End Of The O9A

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Whether by design or because of fundamental flaws – in this instance the anarchic-nihilistic O9A principle of the authority of individual judgment and the Labyrinthos Mythologicus – [the O9A] is, de facto and as of 2023 CE, dead and buried. Those who believe this demise was by design quote the following from the [1990] writings of Anton Long:

“I claim no authority, and my creations, profuse as they are, will in the end be accepted or rejected on the basis of whether they work […] I also expect to see them become transformed, by their own metamorphosis and that due to other individuals: changed, extended and probably ultimately transcended, may be even forgotten. They – like the individual I am at the moment – are only a stage, toward something else.”

“Each individual develops their own unique perspective and insight as a consequence of striving to achieve Adeptship – a perspective and insight which derives mainly from practical experience, both magickal and personal.”</quote>

* O9A: Dead And Buried
* A Summary, 2018-2023
* Abandoning The O9A


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An Uncertitude Of Knowing

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David Myatt, 2005

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Between March 2022 and March 2023 David Myatt gave four interviews each one of which was informative about his philosophy of pathei mathos, his life experiences, about extremism, and about his current views. Together they provide a fairly comprehensive understanding of not only Myatt himself but also of his philosophy, or weltanschauung as he prefers to call it. In addition to these interviews we include the June 2022 text “Misunderstanding Denotata In Myatt’s Philosophy Of Pathei-Mathos” which provides an insightful overview of his philosophy.

David Myatt: An Uncertitude Of Knowing

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The Mystic Philosophy Of David Myatt

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The third edition is now available in print:

I. A Modern Mystic
II. A Modern Pagan Philosophy
III. Honour In The Philosophy Of Pathei-Mathos
IV. An Overview of The Philosophy of Pathei-Mathos
V. Classical Paganism And A New Metaphysics
Appendix I. A Note On Greek Terms
Appendix II. Towards Understanding Ancestral Culture
Appendix III. From Mythoi To Empathy
Appendix IV. One Perceiveration
Appendix V. Appreciating Classical Literature
Appendix VI. Physis And Being
Appendix VII. The Concept of Physis

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Also now available in print is Myatt’s iconoclastic translation of and commentary on chapters 1 – 5 of the Gospel of John:

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Trying To Use Words

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A selection of essays by David Myatt from his post-2009 but pre-2012 writings about ‘the numinous way’ he was then in the process of developing to explain both his ‘change of perspective’ and that weltanschauung. During 2011 and 2012 he refined that ‘numinous way’ into his philosophy of pathei-mathos. These early essays are interesting in the context of not only that ‘numinous way’ but also of how a philosopher develops their insights. As Myatt expressed it in “A Change of Perspective” – included here – written in 2010: <quote>to paraphrase TS Eliot, here I am now, in the middle way I have devised for myself, having had many years, often wasted, the years between two wars within myself: “Trying to use words, and every attempt Is a wholly new start, and a different kind of failure.”</quote>

David Myatt: Trying To Use Words



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The Hebdomadary

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The term Hebdomadary in the context of the Hebdomian Way refers to the individual who is undertaking an esoteric journey or quest (ἄνοδος) for Lapis Philosophicus by means of following the path that is the Hebdomian Way. The Way consists of seven stages which ancient hermetic tradition symbolized by the seven classical planets beginning with Lune, the Moon, and ending with Saturni, Saturn.

The Hebdomadary

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Page from the 1577 (ev) book Iamblichvs De mysteriis Ægyptiorvm, Chaldæorum, Assyriorum: Proclvs in Platonicum Alcibiadem de anima, atque dæmone, Idem De sacrificio & magia: Porphyrivs De diuinis atq, dæmonib: Psellvs De dæmonibus: Mercvrii Trismegisti Pimander, Eiusdem Asclepius. The book contains the Latin text of the Corpus Hermeticum by Marsilius Ficinus.

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A Disgrace

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In a recent article on the Luxlycaonis website the author wrote, in reference to our missive O9A: A Moral Dilemma? {1} that

“For a tradition that prides itself on honor and the integrity required to uphold it, it’s disgraceful that anyone claiming association with this tradition can stand idly by…”

But the reality was that all of them did “stand idly by” for over four years – 2018-2022 – and that during that time we were the only ones who publicly contradicted, with reference to primary O9A sources, the perfidy, the mendacity, of the Establishment and its savants {2} – such as those who prosecuted Ethan Melzer – who were not, in the words of the author of that Luxlycaonis website article:

“interested in logic-chopping, fact-based argumentation, or any evidence […] They are interested in one thing: erecting a strawman in the mires of their moral Gethsemane worthy of chopping down.”

Our foundations in developing our non-Longusian Hebdomian Way {3} were: (a) the knowledge that it was a natural part of the Seven Fold Way that those who had journeyed a certain distance would or should develop their own esoteric Way, and (b) that our focus was on the quest, by others and ourselves, for Lapis Philosophicus in accord with the primary sources of ancient hermeticism as embodied in the Greek texts of the Corpus Hermeticum, sources which the translations and commentaries of Myatt have esoterically illuminated. {4}

That is all.

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{1} https://sevenoxonians.wordpress.com/2023/02/25/a-moral-dilemma/

{2} Savant is O9A-speak for someone who is supine and/or who appeases or who soothes their master or masters, often by agreeing with them or doing their bidding. The usage is from the Icelandic
sefa
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{3} Abandoning The O9A,
https://sevenoxonians.files.wordpress.com/2023/03/abandoning-the-o9a-v3.pdf

{4} Corpus Hermeticum: Eight Tractates,
https://davidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/eight-tractates-v2-print.pdf

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Abandoning The O9A

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A useful collection of texts which detail why we abandoned the Order of Nine Angles in favour of developing The Hebdomian Way. Several of the texts deal with Hermeticism in general and the Corpus Hermeticum in particular.

Introduction.
I O9A: Desertam Indefensamque.
II A New Beginning.
   ° The Hebdomadary
   ° The Hermetic Quest And Pathei-Mathos
   ° Philosophical And Hermetic Foundations Of The Hebdomian Way
III Paradox Of The O9A Authority Of Individual Judgment.
IV The Sevenfold Seeking And Noesis Of The Hebdomian Way.
V Julius Evola, The Seven Fold Way, And Hermeticism.
VI A Review of Myatt’s The Divine Pymander.

Abandoning The O9A

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A Moral Dilemma?

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Is an esoteric philosophy which appears to have no morality, no ethical boundaries, and no one in authority to declaim what is not acceptable, in some way culpable for despicable, dishonourable, deeds which some self-declared adherents do or propagate in its name?

This is the dilemma we faced before deciding to develop our own Hebdomian Way after some years of following an example of that type of authority-less philosophy for while we understood it did have ethical boundaries, which we endeavoured to explain in a fourteen page tract published in October 2021, they were so well hidden by a ‘Labyrinthos Mythologicus’ that only one or two individuals per decade discovered them.

The glib answer in regard to such culpability, used by some stalwarts of that esoteric philosophy, is that no, it is not responsible and cannot be held responsible citing as proof its anarchic nature. To us, this seemed disingenuous and against those ethical boundaries which only a few in over four decades had discovered.

Can something anarchic in nature open to various interpretations and misinterpretations – and thus to the whims of individuals – serve as a means to wisdom? We did not believe so and thus developed our own esotericism. As we wrote:
[The] Hebdomian Way returns to the primary hermetic source since the essence of that Way is changing the individual through pathei-mathos – πάθει μάθος, the personal learning or discovery resulting from practical experiences and challenges – with everything external or internal to this considered as unnecessary, unhelpful, and distractive. {1}
Thus, it is our conclusion that that authority-less esoteric philosophy should be considered as defunct by those who by hermetic or other means seek Lapis Philosophicus; for even though it did preserve some ancient esoteric traditions and developed some new useful ones such as The Star Game {2} its moral defects render it unsuitable as a modern practical guide to Lapis Philosophicus.

The Seven Oxonians
February 2023

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{1} Abandoning The O9A, https://sevenoxonians.files.wordpress.com/2023/03/abandoning-the-o9a-v3.pdf

{2} See Noesis And The Star Game and The Noetic Star Game (pp.19-25) of Abandoning The O9A.

 

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Myatt, Antifascists, And The Periodicity Of Strife

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David Myatt, 2005

Myatt, Antifascists, And The Periodicity Of Strife

In January 2023 there was some discussion, on a ‘right-wing’ public Internet forum, about the application of David Myatt’s mystical philosophy of pathei-mathos to the real world; specifically in relation to the modern political ideology termed antifascism, with the main contributor quoting from the 2021 text Deconstructing Antifascism, Refounding Western Paganism. One quotation from that Deconstructing Antifascism text was: “Rather than aiding the creation of better, more fair and rational, societies and communities, antifascists despite their propaganda to the contrary continue the historical cycle of division, persecution, intolerance, hate, and violence. For in terms of suffering (dukkha) they with their categorizations of the-other and claims to moral authority perpetuate the dialectic of conflict.”

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